Asked a dear friend of mine. Not missing a beat, typed and typed away yours truly. I never miss a chance to type a lot :) This is the copy paste of the email chain. Enjoy.
what the hell is going on in turkey now?
the "cemaat" is showing its fangs (fethullah gulen) they are very dominant within the police and secret service - have been for millennia. the government tried to curb the activity of "dershaneler" - auxiliary private institutions that employ teachers and help kids progress better at school but actually do other tbings on the side as well - a weird ecosysyem tbat does not exist anywhere else which was fueled by the horrible education system of that weird country for at least the past 20 years. they first appeared when i was in high school. a good number of those places are operated by the cemaat and government's decision did nit bide well with them (think brain washing and recruitment centers). they asked rte to back donw but he didnt so they acted like they backed down but did this very precise and strategic move right before the elections. all the "arrests" are pinpoint targeted towards people, banks and institutions that deal with the construction sector. this will delay last minute high profile development projects that the government would have announced right before the elections to get even more votes. a very, very clever move. but i think they miscalculated how well people communicate today. their plan was discovered almost overnight and the backlash seems to favor the government. this will backfire for them.
operations were carried out illegally too. nothing was communicated up the chain of command inside the police force either. for example, the police chief in ankara is not their man, so they sent police task force from iatanbul to carry out operations in ankara. ankara police chief has no information. some instances, the execute order was delivered to individual officers in brown bags during breakfast - unheard of.
smart, well planned but will end up strengthening rte's hand in the end. turkish people side with "mazlum" (the poor guy being attacked)
what a country.
and the minority party chief came to US in last weeks and secretly met with the delegation of the cemaat (leader lives her in the US in exile). everything is connected. even the "gezi parki" protests (german intelligence)
also, there is another dimension: one of the biggest bank's top exec was arrested too (halk bankasi) his bank has been having record gains in the past 5 years. he recently was pressured by the US through the congress and the israeli lobby because he was paying the iranians in precious metals for the natural gas turkey is importing - not good for the US interests (US is getting cosier with iran, we want them to use US dollars please) the bank heeded some of the warnings but stood ground mostly and that did not bide well either.
it's quite interesting actually. like a strategy game unfolding in front of my eyes.
damn. this is confusing.if "gulenists" have more power, is this good or bad for secularists?
according to my wife most people like us are happy with these developments. but i dont underestand if its actually good or if its more like "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" situation.
anybody who is happy with these developments is delusional my friend. this government is the best thing that happened to that country since ataturk and ozal.
i don't think i'll ever get turkish politics.
:) think in terms of human habits and denial that comes with brain washing. here's the correct history of that country which will help form a healthier base for your educational pleasure in Turkish politics.
A pro-military, fascist faction, a residual parasitic organization left over from the empire had been in command of all the Turkish governments behind the scenes since before the fall of the empire itself all the way up to the current government. This fascist faction is one of the primary reasons why Ataturk refused treatment and asked to be left alone in the hands of the Turkish doctors. Not that because he loved Turkish doctors that much, but because he knew that he could control them and they would turn a blind eye to his food free, Raki & meze & music diet in his latter years. Ismet Inonu was the head of this faction, a figure not loved, almost hated by the country's population. The next president was supposed to be Kazim Karabekir, another commander from the empire days who was in control of the eastern front, who was loved by the people. Ataturk was sick, Inonu caged (figuratively speaking) him and kept him in the dark about a lot of things, misrepresented a lot of others and (a lot of very, very bad things happened in Anatolia in these days) pissed him off. Inonu was taken off of the prime minister role once by Ataturk because of his militarist and fascist doctrine but gained power again - this was the first real bloodless military coup in the young Turkish Republic. Inonu ousted Karabekir and became the president. Ataturk gave up on everything and kept to drinking and died a sad, bitter man (not in Dolmabahce and not at 9:05AM btw)
first hint: 90% of my friends do not know this history. we were all brain washed with a different diluted, two sentence version of this. no questions were allowed.
this fascist faction has a party: CHP (which used to be HP, then became DP, then became SHP, then something else etc etc) the problem with this party is that it's a "bureaucrat" party not a "halk" party. it has "social" in its name, but has not been social in its 90 years of history and has never won any elections. it "took" a few of them (think transparent voting envelopes with police and soldiers observing you) but never won any. public hates this party. the only voters who vote for them has the mindset of football hooligans - they vote for that party to the death, no matter what it does, or does not; they "bleed" CHP. If you ask any person about what CHP had delivered in its history you'll get a blank stare, because that's what they delivered. It had always been a facade, a pawn party, letting the behind the scenes players dictate what to do.
behind the scenes players in Turkey:
- military (land, not air or sea, only land)
- extremely powerful drug & gun trafficers
- Istanbul economy power players
these are not representatives of "halk (public)" they don't vote per se, and their agenda has nothing to do with Turkey as a country. their agenda has only "money" written all over it and to that end they have created countless little conflicts, chaos happenings to steer the public in certain directions to keep the money flowing. a 20 year martial law in south eastern cities killed 20 thousand people, the region went dead poor, but do you know how many incredibly rich and powerful figured emerged from that region and settled in Istanbul to own and operate conglomerates? turkish military has not produced a single gun, tank, jeep (was still using WWII issue willies in my college years), missile in 90 years. a military who had the second to none expertise in guerilla warfare and urban operations, which purchased everything from USA, Germany, France, Italy and Israel, and never produced anything - not even attempted (except ammunition - no export, just to use - of course) The Istanbul industrial circle owns all the media, all the construction, all the financial industry; for a century almost Turkey only consisted of Istanbul, Izmir and Ankara; nothing else existed. The police force in that country is rotated annually, can you believe this? One year you are in Istanbul, the next you are in Adiyaman. Why? To make sure that you cannot adopt, and meet the people. "Devlet" was something up there for the Turkish people like in the Empire days. It was something utopic, that had power, that did what it wanted. "devlet bize yardim etsin" (government please help us) would say even the little kid. because that was the brain washing. devlet does everything, you just sit there. we'll tell you what to do.
a famous saying by a famous CHP municipality president from the 60s for pro-democracy protesters: "if democracy is needed, we (the government) will bring it to you. you don't get to demand it!"
think why Turkish Yesilcam movies always had the same theme. It was social engineering. Always bitter, always sad, always without a hope. Think Arabesk and its message. These are all inline with certain policies. Think how my elementary school years were: we all wore the same black outfits and did this oath, every morning like the pledge of allegiance in a more military setting - "my being is a gift to Turks" we had numbers, not names, when teachers called us they said "357 stand up".
like the people of North Korea, there are thousands in Turkey who would die for their fearless leader. I have friends who had the word Ataturk tatooed on their fore arms. There are those who think Nutuk (Ataturk's self-reflecting 3 day long accounting of how the independence war was fought) is a holy book and should be revered. Certain behavior patterns in Turkey match that of North Koreans 100% - it's a matter of seeing.
now this government is not from Istanbul; they are from Anatolia. the leaders of current government united the country whereas the status quo was to divide and keep divided. turkey had the discussions it should have had 80 years ago under this government and passed each test. the current government used islam as base because race and ethnicity cannot be used in Turkey there are so many divisive factors that nothing works (which was how the game was played before this government) that's why they keep getting > 45% of the population to vote for them. not because 99% of the population is muslim, but because this government, for the first time, united Anatolia and turned Turkey into a leading, global player in every sense.
CHP could not, never even tried to, it's not their mission they don't even have it as a vision. they are not a true political party in any sense. ANAP (ozal's party) was and they jump started the country in the late 80s. There are thousands of individuals who still hate him because he brought, (drum roll) value added tax!
People who think this government is evil forgot how we grew up. When I was growing up I had no idea about the Kurd problem - and I grew up in Anatolia! When I first learned it it was 1990! It was 1992 when I learned about the things that happened between the Armenians and the Ottoman Empire and the eastern front and the Greeks and the British. It was 2000 when I learned about Dersim! These are all products of the shadow government, facade of which is CHP and all its predecessors.
Think how people are reacting towards a party that has almost half the country voting for it. They want to overthrow it by force, they are expecting economic collapse, a military coup, anything but a political opponent party that can deliver the anti-thesis and get more votes. Because that does not exist. How healthy is that?
I have friends who thinks that shepherds, carpenters, farmers should have less of a vote; because they don't know how to decide who to vote for! When I call them fascists they blow their brains; when I make them read the definition of a fascist their brains blow all the fuses.
Turks have no idea what democracy means; most think Republic = Democracy. It's pretty much useless to discuss anything political with them. They approach the issue as Galatasary vs Fenerbahce.
For decades Islamofobia was the primary fear factor in a country that's population was 99% muslim! How funny is that? But they are "light" muslims. They said they were afraid to become Iran. Then it turned out that they won't become one. Then they started fearing that they will become like Malaysia or Senegal or some weird ass asian country; that didn't work. Now they are afraid of something else; who knows what. The thing is that they are used to, bred to and brain washed to "fear things" and to be lead and governed by fear. When it does not exist, they are lost and become cryptic and become tools in other people's games.
Best to leave the country to them and just enjoy the time we're given. We're all gonna die anyway :)
That concludes my coffee break :)
holy shit. you should post this on a website somewhere. don't waste it on just me!
I have to read a few times and digest.
Normally I would play devils advocate and present some sort of opposing perspective, but I don't know enough to do this. The only thing I'll say, is that from what I've gleamed, AKP is winning elections because they're basically buying the poor vote with all sorts of unsustainable public services and projects. True? And you present that party as if it's a shiny bastion of politics, but I understand there's plenty of corruption in there too. Also seems like they're trying to gradually push the country in a more religious direction - I hear stories about women putting on headscarves just to get jobs, pretending they're more religious than they are, etc etc.
What you write is definitely provoking, but there must be another side to the coin.
If you were living in Turkey would you be voting for AKP?
Seriously, thanks for writing this. I'm going to forward to wifey. I don't know when she'll be able to read it.
hahaha. no my friend. you should ask whomever came up with the claim to back it up with evidence. they are the bitter losers.
the public is voting for AKP because they are getting richer. look at the numbers, numbers never lie. look how many cities have blossomed in anatolia. look how the domestic flight numbers multiplied, how many domestic airports are opened, how many new constructions are going on. look at anatolia, not istanbul, ankara or izmir. if the government was buying out the poor then economy would not explode like this. turkey is exporting culture now, turkish tv soap operas are being watched all around the arabian peninsula and africa. look at how many countries have removed visa restrictions to turkey.
if I was in turkey I would not be voting - I never did. I don't trust turks, period.
but that doesn't make me a blind idiot parrot.
when the rest of europe was / is melting turkey was / is growing. growth has slowed down, but not stopped or retarded even in the face of all the calamities.
just look at the numbers...
read the first paragraph.
numbers like this paint a very, very different picture than the cry babies. how can anybody say "oh, they are getting 45% because they are paying the poor to vote for them" :)) hahahah. what, 45% of the country is poor? Where are they getting all this money to pay them, and what is this payment really? are they seeing people walking door to door handing out cash, or is the government mailing checks? long lines in front of banks with shepherds cashing out checks? are the farmers flocking the big cities, leaving their fields behind because the government gave them cash advances for their future votes?
ah $u delusional turks :)
just read the GDP line, you don't need to read everything, let me attach it, it's really fun.
paying out the poor. ahahah. yes. actually that might be correct. the poor is getting richer. in that sense the bell curve is changing shape. as anatolia got richer, in relative terms istanbul and izmir got poorer (who cares about ankara) that made people living in those cities mad! mad! they lost their brains. how can farmers get on planes. how can this be?!? people who don't know how to wear proper beach attire started showing up in beaches!!! oh the calamity! yes, they are the farmers and the anatolian dwellers who have never been to a beach in their lives. but they will learn. they will get to wear proper attire in time.
meanwhile, akp will keep on winning elections and these delusional people will keep on thinking that the reason they have been winning in 10+ years is because they are paying off the poor to vote for them.
I like this one better: they have an islamic agenda and are going to bring sheria law (is that how you spell it?)
when I left that country only the government was allowed to produce raki. how many are there now?
when I left that country, there were only 5 different wines in "tekel bayii" now, how many are there? how many vineyards are there? how many international wineries are selling turkish wines?
please don't make me search how many touristic place licenses were issued in the past 10 years and the number of foreign tourists coming to turkey or number of liquor licenses were issued in Istanbul to various establishments. oh wait I should do that, that would be even more fun.
yes, islamic government indeed. my ass!!!
Final words - this had been fun :) I drank another cup of coffee even:
Turkey in Statistics 2012
page 39: unemployment rate
and the rest. the document is in both english and turkish.
this is why akp is winning, is going to keep on winning
this is why what's happening in turkey is happening and will keep on happening
being a "big country" is a different ball game. a game you cannot play by constantly blaming the other side and crying "it's not fair, it's not fair, they are cheating, they must be cheating"
in this ball game, the most organized, the most hard working one wins. not the one who cries the most.
in this ball game, you must help other countries, you must act on foreign relations, you must get involved.
From United Nations Development Program
- Turkey has made a lot of progress in Millennium Development Goals (MDGs) since 2000.
- In Turkey, extreme poverty below the income level of one dollar per day does not exist anymore, which was 1.1% in 1994 and 0.2% in 2002, was reduced to nil in 2006, and food poverty is also being kept at a relatively low level.
- Turkey also nearly achieved gender parity in primary education and has made important progress with regards to reducing child and maternal mortality rates.
- Achieving universal primary education in Turkey is well within reach before 2015 with a net enrolment ratio of 98.7 percent, while the literacy rate among the 15-24 age group is at 97 percent.
Please, let the second bullet point sink in a little. You may share these with anybody lazy enough to not use google but stupid enough to argue otherwise based on anecdotal evidence from his dad, her dad, his friend's dad or magazine pages.
Turkish foreign aid growth (podcast with transcript)
Ok ok - points taken!
So do you have any criticisms of Edogan/AKP?
standard turkish partisanship. idolistic hero complex with "the holy leader" centric approach. take erdogan out of that party and it falls apart. they are a bunch of sheep. Gul (the president, the english speaking one of the duo) is not as charismatic as erdogan. erdogan is alpha leader, like any good leader he loves to lead; and like most leaders he cannot listen that well. I am not afraid of them in any sense of islamic tide. but they should be more transparent about their cultural approaches as the usual rhetoric of "love the created because of the creator" does not help ease the pains of that nation - pains that go back thousands of years. he can do a much better job by still doing what he does but look like less of a "this is it! it's either my way or the highway!" person. Their current method is "wait until we're done, then you'll see" is leaving too much room for manipulators to come in and make up stories - alas, that is the Turkish way.
so far he did a brilliant job of leading and staying on track with more than 80% of expectations and promises. He failed some, but not that critical ones. You cannot expect much more from a layman - he is not a college educated, westernized modern leader in that sense; he is more of a last century dude.
the party itself is nothing interesting. organized around the leader. bound together by brotherhood of islam rather than political ideology (which does not exist in turkey. all the parties want the same thing, say the same thing, have the same ideas) so that does not surprise me and I don't see that as something to criticize :))
what's funny is that an islamist party is arguing and bringing "freedom of dress code" to the country that thinks "forcing a particular way of dressing and abolishing and persecuting anything else that falls outside that particular way is democracy" :)) makes me laugh so hard.
economy wise I have 0 criticism.
he should have removed the immunity on the parliament members. they cannot be prosecuted. he promised, but realized that doing that meant certain death and backed away. nobody in that parliament would have supported that idea, even though the entire country backed it up :))
Side note: I would feel the same way towards any other party that did this. I am not a partisan of anyone. truth be told, I was very worried when he won the elections to become the mayor of Istanbul when I was in high-school. Took me a decade to break out of the brain washing treatment of "oh no, the islamists are coming."